Comments on: The Consequences of a Poverty Mentality http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/ Michael Pink Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:03:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Madison Reed http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-26944 Madison Reed Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:31:07 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-26944 I'm very optimistic about the future, as we all get in touch with the Holy Spirit's guidance for our lives! Jesus said He came to show us how to have an abundant life. Didn't He? So let's begin! I’m very optimistic about the future, as we all get in touch with the Holy Spirit’s guidance for our lives! Jesus said He came to show us how to have an abundant life. Didn’t He? So let’s begin!

]]> By: Chris http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12313 Chris Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:15:25 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12313 Where can I purchase this book? Where can I purchase this book?

]]> By: Anita Armagnac http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12136 Anita Armagnac Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:48:31 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12136 Dennis: I agree with what you said "I love what everyone's written" which says that this can be seen through different Biblical perspectives and different levels of maturity in Christ. And yes, what matters is where our heart is with our wonderful Savior - He definitely needs to be FIRST in all things, business, money matters, etc., that we might do ALL things for His glory. I love all of you! Dennis:
I agree with what you said “I love what everyone’s written” which says that this can be seen through different Biblical perspectives and different levels of maturity in Christ. And yes, what matters is where our heart is with our wonderful Savior - He definitely needs to be FIRST in all things, business, money matters, etc., that we might do ALL things for His glory. I love all of you!

]]> By: Dennis Preston http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12128 Dennis Preston Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:35:11 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12128 Hello all, I think there is good news and bad news on this. The good news is that we are not God! What I mean by this is that we cannot perceive all that He is doing in our limited ability to perceive correctly. We truly know in part and prophesy in part, and that's humbling especiall for those of us in a materialistic society that seeks to control everything. I don't mean materialistic in the sense of acquisition, though that is part of it. Moreso I mean that if we can't see, it can't be real. The reality is that even for Christians, this is a struggle God is able to do both judge and bless at the same time. Actually, to be judged on this side of eternity is a blessing, rather than to wait until the final judgement. True, there are many who are stingy who name Christ's name, but I've also met many who are not with maybe not $50 mil+, but a lot of money. The issue in all of this is our hearts as many have said here. Where is our heart at? Where our treasure is, there our heart will be. That's immutable. To say that Christians can't learn to prosper in the business world by learning solid principles is the same as saying that a carpenter cannot learn to build a good house by studying architectural principles. Laws are laws are laws are laws no matter who uses them. In fact, used in concert with God, they have MUCH more power than those who use them for their own selfish purposes. I love what everyone's written here, especially those I don't necessarily agree with. In part, I think those are more important for me because possibly God is using them to help me grow. We are all the body, and as each does its part, the body grows, so I appreciate especially Kern, your comments. We need the balance on this issue. No one's got it all figured out, we're all learning. Blessings to all! Dennis Hello all,

I think there is good news and bad news on this. The good news is that we are not God! What I mean by this is that we cannot perceive all that He is doing in our limited ability to perceive correctly. We truly know in part and prophesy in part, and that’s humbling especiall for those of us in a materialistic society that seeks to control everything. I don’t mean materialistic in the sense of acquisition, though that is part of it. Moreso I mean that if we can’t see, it can’t be real. The reality is that even for Christians, this is a struggle

God is able to do both judge and bless at the same time. Actually, to be judged on this side of eternity is a blessing, rather than to wait until the final judgement.

True, there are many who are stingy who name Christ’s name, but I’ve also met many who are not with maybe not $50 mil+, but a lot of money.

The issue in all of this is our hearts as many have said here. Where is our heart at? Where our treasure is, there our heart will be. That’s immutable. To say that Christians can’t learn to prosper in the business world by learning solid principles is the same as saying that a carpenter cannot learn to build a good house by studying architectural principles. Laws are laws are laws are laws no matter who uses them. In fact, used in concert with God, they have MUCH more power than those who use them for their own selfish purposes.

I love what everyone’s written here, especially those I don’t necessarily agree with. In part, I think those are more important for me because possibly God is using them to help me grow. We are all the body, and as each does its part, the body grows, so I appreciate especially Kern, your comments. We need the balance on this issue. No one’s got it all figured out, we’re all learning.

Blessings to all!
Dennis

]]> By: Kern http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12116 Kern Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:01:17 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12116 Jay, It is called a great awakening. A revival. The way I believe God is going to get our attention is through a economic crisis. Christian will once again have to trust God and not their wealth. Jesus said we will be persecuted and the way is hard. We try to make it easy and not hard. Jay,

It is called a great awakening. A revival. The way I believe God is going to get our attention is through a economic crisis. Christian will once again have to trust God and not their wealth. Jesus said we will be persecuted and the way is hard. We try to make it easy and not hard.

]]> By: Joyce http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12110 Joyce Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:30:46 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12110 Hello, Jay. Your blog is an interesting take on the big economic picture in America. I think of Joseph and Daniel, who were each taken captive by stronger nations and planted in the households of infidels. Because they each chose to keep God's commands and serve with excellence, God highly exalted them and prospered them DESPITE all odds stacked against them. This is a time for us to each get very serious about our relationship with God and let Him grow our faith to believe that since He is no respecter or persons, he can and will not only deliver us but prosper us if and when calamity falls. Keep speaking the truth- "Nothing is impossible with God!" Hello, Jay. Your blog is an interesting take on the big economic picture in America. I think of Joseph and Daniel, who were each taken captive by stronger nations and planted in the households of infidels. Because they each chose to keep God’s commands and serve with excellence, God highly exalted them and prospered them DESPITE all odds stacked against them. This is a time for us to each get very serious about our relationship with God and let Him grow our faith to believe that since He is no respecter or persons, he can and will not only deliver us but prosper us if and when calamity falls. Keep speaking the truth- “Nothing is impossible with God!”

]]> By: Jay http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12050 Jay Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:16:46 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-12050 Very good comments from the Jesus lovers crowd. However, in my own business experience of 19 years being self-employed, I have seen VERY wealthy christians being some of the most stingy individuals that I have ever met. I am talking about the $50mil+ crowd. If this is the wealthy church today, then we are not ready to receive real wealth from the Throne Room. We are to use the funds for His kingdom, not for our own, as we own nothing, we are just stewards. The church in America is much too immature to handle wealth in these last days. What I see coming is a giant economic crash to disipline the church and wake up America. The dollar is going to crash; there is nothing backing it and never in history has a fiat currency lasted. We as the Body of Christ need to be ready, but in my lowly opinion we are not ready. So be prepared to serve others once this economic downturn hits. Sorry for the bad news! Jay in Denver Very good comments from the Jesus lovers crowd. However, in my own business experience of 19 years being self-employed, I have seen VERY wealthy christians being some of the most stingy individuals that I have ever met. I am talking about the $50mil+ crowd. If this is the wealthy church today, then we are not ready to receive real wealth from the Throne Room. We are to use the funds for His kingdom, not for our own, as we own nothing, we are just stewards. The church in America is much too immature to handle wealth in these last days. What I see coming is a giant economic crash to disipline the church and wake up America. The dollar is going to crash; there is nothing backing it and never in history has a fiat currency lasted. We as the Body of Christ need to be ready, but in my lowly opinion we are not ready. So be prepared to serve others once this economic downturn hits. Sorry for the bad news!
Jay in Denver

]]> By: Peter http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-11923 Peter Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:11:59 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-11923 We can see this "poverty mentality" alive and thriving in our churches and apparently in this blog as well! It's goal is to convince the Church of Jesus Christ that poverty is piety, and that wealth is inherently evil. What a shame that we are scared of a tool God wants to use. We should know that Poverty thrives on fear. I'll remind you that Paul encourages believers to put all things under their feet. This includes money. That means that whether you are wealthy or in lack, your faith and love and service for the Lord is steadfast. If wealth is a stumblingblock to your faith, then by all means avoid it. Don't allow anything to sidetrack you. But to think that all believers should avoid wealth and pursue only eternal riches, is to allow the "fear of money" to reign and give it a power that God never intended it to have. The "wicked" and "slothful" servant in the parable of the talents was the one who "feared" his Master and was unfruitful with what was put in his care. He had a legalistic relationship with his Master. Our God has big plans! Let's not limit Him in our minds, and allow him to uses us for His Glory. We can see this “poverty mentality” alive and thriving in our churches and apparently in this blog as well! It’s goal is to convince the Church of Jesus Christ that poverty is piety, and that wealth is inherently evil. What a shame that we are scared of a tool God wants to use. We should know that Poverty thrives on fear. I’ll remind you that Paul encourages believers to put all things under their feet. This includes money. That means that whether you are wealthy or in lack, your faith and love and service for the Lord is steadfast.

If wealth is a stumblingblock to your faith, then by all means avoid it. Don’t allow anything to sidetrack you. But to think that all believers should avoid wealth and pursue only eternal riches, is to allow the “fear of money” to reign and give it a power that God never intended it to have.

The “wicked” and “slothful” servant in the parable of the talents was the one who “feared” his Master and was unfruitful with what was put in his care. He had a legalistic relationship with his Master.

Our God has big plans! Let’s not limit Him in our minds, and allow him to uses us for His Glory.

]]> By: Kern http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-11918 Kern Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:08:03 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-11918 First. The wealth and blessing God talks about Christians getting is in the Kingdom, not here on earth. Why would you want a lot of stuff here so it will be burned up. Second, be careful. I hope everyone who reads his works and book is deeply grounded in God's Word. For example he said . God seeks to transfer wealth and prosperity to His children so we can confront this evil with good. Yet, Jesus said we would be persecuted and may even lose all of our possessions but we must not give up. Remember, your citizenship is not here on earth but is in heaven. First. The wealth and blessing God talks about Christians getting is in the Kingdom, not here on earth. Why would you want a lot of stuff here so it will be burned up.

Second, be careful. I hope everyone who reads his works and book is deeply grounded in God’s Word. For example he said . God seeks to transfer wealth and prosperity to His children so we can confront this evil with good.

Yet, Jesus said we would be persecuted and may even lose all of our possessions but we must not give up. Remember, your citizenship is not here on earth but is in heaven.

]]> By: MILDRED BERRY http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-11915 MILDRED BERRY Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:06:56 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/11/28/the-consequences-of-a-poverty-mentality/#comment-11915 WELL SAID TO THE THREE UP ABOVE. I KNOW THAT GOD IS ABOUT TO OPEN THE FLOOD GATES OF HEAVEN TO THOSE WHOM HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL. KEEPING THIER FOCUS ON HIM AND SEEKING FIRST THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. WARNING TO ALL OF US - THE MONEY IS NOT FOR OUR PLEASURE BUT FOR THE BUILDING AND SUPPORTING OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD. WE WILL ENJOY THE BLESSING BUT DON'T LET IT TAKE YOUR FOCUS OFF OF HIM. RELATIONSHIP MUST BE FIRST OR YOU WILL BECOME A WORTHLESS SERVANT. WELL SAID TO THE THREE UP ABOVE. I KNOW THAT GOD IS ABOUT TO OPEN THE FLOOD GATES OF HEAVEN TO THOSE WHOM HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL. KEEPING THIER FOCUS ON HIM AND SEEKING FIRST THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. WARNING TO ALL OF US - THE MONEY IS NOT FOR OUR PLEASURE BUT FOR THE BUILDING AND SUPPORTING OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD. WE WILL ENJOY THE BLESSING BUT DON’T LET IT TAKE YOUR FOCUS OFF OF HIM. RELATIONSHIP MUST BE FIRST OR YOU WILL BECOME A WORTHLESS SERVANT.

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