Comments on: 12 Biblical Laws of Wealth Creation http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/ Michael Pink Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:14:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Brad Young http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12685 Brad Young Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:21:36 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12685 Should the church be involved in money? Yes but each belongs in it's own department. Let me explain... The Priest- To lead and guide the body of christ to the "Vision" God has for the church! The Kings- Are business owners that are called to provide pro"Vision" for the Vision God has shown the Priest and revealed to the Kings of the house/church. Sheep- Bring in pro"vision" the help the church reach the vision. Prophets- The encourage Kings & Priest and the rest of the body to the fights coming against the body of christ and war is waged spiritual in claiming the Vision! Note: When everybody plays their part in the role above God also helps them bring their personal "vision" to pass! Your Brother in Christ, Brad www.bradyoungcreditseminars.com Should the church be involved in money? Yes but each belongs in it’s own department. Let me explain…

The Priest- To lead and guide the body of christ to the “Vision” God has for the church!
The Kings- Are business owners that are called to provide pro”Vision” for the Vision God has shown the Priest and revealed to the Kings of the house/church.
Sheep- Bring in pro”vision” the help the church reach the vision.
Prophets- The encourage Kings & Priest and the rest of the body to the fights coming against the body of christ and war is waged spiritual in claiming the Vision!
Note: When everybody plays their part in the role above God also helps them bring their personal “vision” to pass!

Your Brother in Christ,
Brad
www.bradyoungcreditseminars.com

]]> By: Brad Young http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12684 Brad Young Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:11:54 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12684 I agree to a point with Dennis but... God does open doors for his children are not open for the people know have not accepted him! There is many blessings that are for the believer not are not available to the lost! For example... The guide(Holy Spirit) is not available to lead an unbeliever into all truth. The word has many promises for the children of God. For example... 51 of the wealthiest 100 people being Jewish is not by chance! There are 400 jews to every 1 white but 51 of them wealthiest are Jewish. Anyways, u see where this is going... The bible says... The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the rightous! That would be children of God not the lost... Your Brother in Christ, Bradley Young www.bradyoungcreditseminars.com I agree to a point with Dennis but… God does open doors for his children are not open for the people know have not accepted him! There is many blessings that are for the believer not are not available to the lost! For example… The guide(Holy Spirit) is not available to lead an unbeliever into all truth. The word has many promises for the children of God.

For example… 51 of the wealthiest 100 people being Jewish is not by chance! There are 400 jews to every 1 white but 51 of them wealthiest are Jewish. Anyways, u see where this is going…

The bible says… The wealth of the wicked is laid up for the rightous! That would be children of God not the lost…

Your Brother in Christ,
Bradley Young
www.bradyoungcreditseminars.com

]]> By: Jon http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12647 Jon Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:46:37 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12647 Maureen, Good question. We have to remember what the bible says about money. Money isn't evil. The Love of money is the root of all evil. We have all seen it where money corrupts people and organizations. With that said, however, all organizations need funding to stay alive and thrive. The last statistic I heard was that 80% of the tithes come from 20% of the people. Unfortunately, that will probably always be that way. The Pareto principle states that 80/20 principle is applied in most other areas of life. Many people are along for the ride and do not contribute. That said, how do churches survive with only 20% of the people contributing? We all used to remember bake sales and car washes and other income producing efforts used to gain funds for mission trips, etc. While these are income producing they are not considered bad because the funds are controlled and used for other ministries to touch others. We can all agree that the end result is good, therefore the method to gain the funds is okay. Why don't church congregations feel the income producing efforts are okay then as long as the funds are used to touch others in the name of Christ? I believe, and scripture states, that we should all use our talents and make them prosper, not bury them. God cannot steer a parked car! Maureen,
Good question. We have to remember what the bible says about money. Money isn’t evil. The Love of money is the root of all evil. We have all seen it where money corrupts people and organizations. With that said, however, all organizations need funding to stay alive and thrive. The last statistic I heard was that 80% of the tithes come from 20% of the people. Unfortunately, that will probably always be that way. The Pareto principle states that 80/20 principle is applied in most other areas of life. Many people are along for the ride and do not contribute. That said, how do churches survive with only 20% of the people contributing?

We all used to remember bake sales and car washes and other income producing efforts used to gain funds for mission trips, etc. While these are income producing they are not considered bad because the funds are controlled and used for other ministries to touch others. We can all agree that the end result is good, therefore the method to gain the funds is okay. Why don’t church congregations feel the income producing efforts are okay then as long as the funds are used to touch others in the name of Christ?

I believe, and scripture states, that we should all use our talents and make them prosper, not bury them. God cannot steer a parked car!

]]> By: Nick http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12644 Nick Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:24:37 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12644 I think there is biblical precedent for "tent making" as Paul did. The church is not a business and it's primary function is the spread of the gospel and the building up of disciples. However, the wise use of resources and creativity to generate income to further the cause of Christ, in my opinion, is very biblical. People get into trouble when they aren't careful to prayerfully watch the dividing line. I think there is biblical precedent for “tent making” as Paul did. The church is not a business and it’s primary function is the spread of the gospel and the building up of disciples. However, the wise use of resources and creativity to generate income to further the cause of Christ, in my opinion, is very biblical. People get into trouble when they aren’t careful to prayerfully watch the dividing line.

]]> By: Maureen http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12640 Maureen Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:52:28 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12640 Excellent comentary by all. John Muratori is a great teacher. My question to you all is, should churches be involved in any income producing ventures? Even convents and monestaries used to make products to sell to support their buildings and ministries. Instead of always counting on the congregations tithes and offerings (which I believe all should give, but reality is most do not), why can't churches become involved in generating some of their own income? Excellent comentary by all. John Muratori is a great teacher. My question to you all is, should churches be involved in any income producing ventures? Even convents and monestaries used to make products to sell to support their buildings and ministries. Instead of always counting on the congregations tithes and offerings (which I believe all should give, but reality is most do not), why can’t churches become involved in generating some of their own income?

]]> By: Monica http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12541 Monica Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:13:02 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12541 I personally believe that Chrisitian Business man and woman should live in the supernatural like Jesus took Peter for a walk on the sea. That is to say that christian business should prosper far above the ungodly business man and woman. I am waiting to purchase John Muratori book. I personally believe that Chrisitian Business man and woman should live in the supernatural like Jesus took Peter for a walk on the sea. That is to say that christian business should prosper far above the ungodly business man and woman. I am waiting to purchase John Muratori book.

]]> By: Nick http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12526 Nick Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:30:33 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12526 I think John Muratori has a unique grasp of biblical economics. His understanding of scripture combined with God's ultimate purposes for our resources is astounding. Great, great teacher. I think John Muratori has a unique grasp of biblical economics. His understanding of scripture combined with God’s ultimate purposes for our resources is astounding. Great, great teacher.

]]> By: Jon http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12518 Jon Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:42:33 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12518 I have been so intrigued with John Muritori's comments that I have ordered the book "Rich Church, Poor Church". I am looking forward to reading it. My current church has been going through many changes in the last several years; Splits, new pastor, new sanctuary as a result of of damage in a storm, etc. Like many churches we have struggled with the finances and making ends meet. I believe that one issue has been a spirit of poverty in the church. As a population, I do not believe for one minute that GOD wants us to be destitute or poverty stricken. I believe that GOD wants us to be propserous in all ways, of which financial is only one of them. Being of good health, good cheer, and being kind to all are prosperous situations that GOD has ordained us to be. More often than not we get in the way and try to 'make' it happen when GOD is about to bless us. Being a Deacon in my church I am now able to help people understand that we, as a church body, need to understand some of the basic principles of branding. We need to understand that the more people we reach will result in more people coming in the door and the more people we can reach for Christ. Developing a 'brand' church is not wrong. People are attracted to things that can help them reach their desires and needs. Under each of our actions is that famous radio station, WIIFM (What's In It For Me). We all want what we want in order to meet our goals and aspirations. As people run into troubles in their lives and are forced to their knees as I was, they will hopefully develop a need for the ONE that fix everyones' problems, Jesus Christ. I have been so intrigued with John Muritori’s comments that I have ordered the book “Rich Church, Poor Church”. I am looking forward to reading it.

My current church has been going through many changes in the last several years; Splits, new pastor, new sanctuary as a result of of damage in a storm, etc. Like many churches we have struggled with the finances and making ends meet. I believe that one issue has been a spirit of poverty in the church. As a population, I do not believe for one minute that GOD wants us to be destitute or poverty stricken. I believe that GOD wants us to be propserous in all ways, of which financial is only one of them. Being of good health, good cheer, and being kind to all are prosperous situations that GOD has ordained us to be. More often than not we get in the way and try to ‘make’ it happen when GOD is about to bless us.

Being a Deacon in my church I am now able to help people understand that we, as a church body, need to understand some of the basic principles of branding. We need to understand that the more people we reach will result in more people coming in the door and the more people we can reach for Christ. Developing a ‘brand’ church is not wrong. People are attracted to things that can help them reach their desires and needs. Under each of our actions is that famous radio station, WIIFM (What’s In It For Me). We all want what we want in order to meet our goals and aspirations. As people run into troubles in their lives and are forced to their knees as I was, they will hopefully develop a need for the ONE that fix everyones’ problems, Jesus Christ.

]]> By: MILDRED BERRY http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12517 MILDRED BERRY Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:12:01 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12517 I TOTALY AGREE WITH DENIS. GODS LAWS AND PRECEPTS ARE FOR ANYONE WHO DARES TO USE THEM. THEY HAVE TO WORK REGARDLESS OF THE USER....SAVED OR UNSAVED. I TOTALY AGREE WITH DENIS. GODS LAWS AND PRECEPTS ARE FOR ANYONE WHO DARES TO USE THEM. THEY HAVE TO WORK REGARDLESS OF THE USER….SAVED OR UNSAVED.

]]> By: Cheryl http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12510 Cheryl Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:27:53 +0000 http://www.sellingamongwolves.com/blog/2007/12/05/12-biblical-laws-of-wealth-creation/#comment-12510 good stuff.... good stuff….

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